Goal nets & stanchions

                  I have always been a connoisseur of goal types and the sort of stanchions and nets they have. One of the sad things about the modern game (apart from the oft-cited and obvious) is that all goals are becoming standardised. You take a look in any of the numerous new stadia built recently and they all have exactly the same goals. Is this a new FIFA ruling? It all began around the mid-eighties and the Mexico 86 World Cup.             

 One thing that disturbed me about Mexico (and I fear I may be alone on this one, but hear me out) was the size of the goals. Obviously the frontage was the standard issue 24’ by 8’, but the size of the nets behind was cause for grave concern. The style of goal they used was rarely seen in England at that time, but very popular on the continent: where the netting is tied to a post each side of the goal by chords strung from each top corner. I wasn’t keen on these but Mexico took them to new heights (and depths) of repugnance. They were simply enormous! They were as deep as they were high. They must hold the record for the largest volume inside a goal. You could easily have fit a car in there facing outward with it’s bumper all the way behind the line.

 The problem with this was that a scored goal just didn’t look as good flying into these nets. Top Corners (my favourites) were lost inside these voluminous onion bags. There’s nothing nicer than a long shot smacking right in to the top corner against the triangle or the corner of the back stanchion, but at Mexico ’86 to score a proper top corner would almost require breaking the laws of gravity. You’d have to shoot fast and low but rising steadily upward to hit the corner where the netting was attached to the supporting post. Vasili Ratz did manage it though for Russia; needless to say this was my favourite goal of the tournament.                           

 Most goals, however, were marred by the horrendous billowing of the ball as it swished around in the mass of netting. The sad thing is that these type of nets started becoming commonplace in England.  All new grounds built since come with these as standard issue. Admittedly they’re not as deep as the ones in Mexico, but I still don’t like them; and like a lot of things in football, such as new Stadiums themselves, their uniformity has taken some of the charm and individuality away from the sport. Is it just me or can the net and the type of structure of the goal-frame make quite a big difference to the beauty of a goal? Nets in the eighties were so personal to each club; there was an array of different styles back then. I could tell you the ground straight away without seeing any bit of stand or terrace by the goals alone. (try doing that now!).             

  There were back stanchions of different colours, triangles, small holed nets, large-holed nets, criss-crossed diamond patterned nets, coloured nets etc etc. This may be a wild claim but I reckon I could tell you what sort of goals every league club had circa 1986!Some grounds’ goals stand out particularly for me. Do you remember the Dell’s goals? They were strung with really coarse small-holed netting; so tight that shots fired at any speed flew back out again. There were Anfield’s red nets and Everton’s blue ones, both of which you could hardly see through, and on the same theme Sheffield Wednesday’s small-holed white nets were virtually opaque. Swansea’s were unusual in that they were strung diagonally so the holes were diamonds rather than squares. They all had the triangle. Arsenal had the back stanchions, which were red, with small holed nets.              

               Brighton’s Goldstone Ground also had back stanchions but were unique in that the stanchion didn’t start exactly at the corner of the bar and post but about half a foot down, and the stanchions had an extra kink at the bottom, about a foot off the ground. Our netting was large holed. Stamford Bridge had unusual goals; this was when the Bridge was shaped like Wembley with two enormous semi-circular gaps at either end where the terracing swung round in a semi-circle. (Is it my imagination or were there cars parked in these spaces?) They had the back stanchions but instead of just one bend had two so were  shaped like this:Chelsea Goals

Loftus Road was also home to some peculiar stanchions (and I’m sure some Subbuteo goals I bought were modelled on them). They had back stanchions like at Chelsea but which curved down smoothly rather than bending at an angle and the netting, rather than being wound round the back of the stanchions, dropped down a couple of inches short of them so they looked a bit like this:  

QPR goals 

Dartford’s Watling Street Ground had some unusual goals that reminded me of ones used in the 1970 World Cup in Mexico. They had jet black stanchions that kinked in two places, Like Chelsea’s, but with the top bit being much shorter than their white Stamford Bridge counterparts. A little bit like this.Dartford goals Stanchions were definitely rarer than the common triangle. Though the triangles themselves came in a variety of colours, sizes and styles. Some weren’t even triangles! I saw some pretty awful approximations of a triangle at some of the Conference grounds while watching the FA Cup round-up on Match of the Day. Some were more like Rhombuses (Rhombai?). One of the rarest type was triangle and stanchion together in the same goal! This was like the Penny black of stanchions. I saw it a couple of times but usually on school pitches seen from the train on the Brighton to Victoria line. Nowadays most clubs have moved over to the new style stanchions and nets. I think every club in the Premiership has the big continental nets with the posts at the back. It’s a shame. I miss the triangle! Never again will we see a football get stuck in the triangle like Trevor Brooking’s goal against Hungary in the early eighties, nor will we see the ref wave play on after a free kick rebounds out off the back stanchion a la Clive Allen, also in the early eighties. Perhaps I’m the only person in the world who cares!

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27 Responses to Goal nets & stanchions

  1. Dutchboy says:

    As a former goalkeeper and as someone who despices uniformity I can only say that you’re absolutely right. I remember oval shaped and square goalposts, which were had their own distinctive effects on balls, but by ’94 they were all gone. As for stanchions, I’m a fan of curved stanchions, but that’s just because they make it easier to climb in the nets.

  2. thegroundhog says:

    I used to be a goalkeeper too! I loved it in goal, especially 5-a-side. Albert Camus, the existentialist philosopher/writer played in goal for an Algiers side. His book L’étranger (or The Outsider) is a play on words because the French slang for goalkeeper is outsider (apparently).
    I was never much for the curved stanchions. I preferred a definite point which could be called the ‘top corner’. I think my favourites are like the ones that used to be at Highbury.

  3. RT says:

    I throughly agree and I mourn the passing of these nets (I thought I was one of the few who could name a ground by its goalnets)

    I think Sheffield Wednesday are reverting to the old style of net, would be great if others followed suit.

    I never liked Southamptons goals, not one bit.

    I once hit the triangle whilst scoring a belter in a sunday league game but alas it didnt stay in it. which did take some of the shine off the goal.

    Its worth noting that although the ‘box goals’ as I called them were popular on the continent, my favourite goals were circa 1987 in the Stadium of Light, they billowed about 6 foot when a well struck shot hit them, perfection.

  4. thegroundhog says:

    RT,
    There’s someone else! We’ll have to test each other on goalnets from the eighties!

    The Dell’s nets were awful, weren’t they. Like they were strung with wire.
    Shame your Sunday league goal didn’t gain Trevor Brooking status!
    There used to be a lot of multi-coloured nets – do you remember Brundell Park’s? Unless I’m dreaming they were like green and black fat stripes, the netting looked so thick, like they’d stolen it from a local trawler.

    A bit of billowing is good. Do you remember the Roy of the Rovers cartoon ‘Tommy’s Troubles’? It was my favourite because the artist used to draw the billowing of the net – and they were usually 25 yard screamers!

    Anyway, thanks for the comment, maybe it will encourage a whole swathe of net enthusiasts to come forth!

    [Check these goals of Leek Town. This is the non-league 'triangle' I talk of. More like a rhombus (or tetrahedron) stretching half way down! Classics!]
    http://www.thefootballtraveller.co.uk/

  5. thegroundhog says:

    Ah, a fellow net enthusiast! We’ll have to test each other.
    Yes, The Dell’s nets were awful, weren’t they.
    It’s a shame your sunday league goal didn’t make it into the Trevor Brooking ball-stuck-in-triangle club but it sounded like a peach all the same.
    It’s a pity the nets are all white now. There used to be a lot of colourful ones. Did Blundell Park have alternative fat stripes of green and black netting, so thick it looked like they’d stolen it off a local trawler.

    I didn’t know about Sheff Wed’s plans but it’d be great if we can bring back the triangle!

    [Check out Leek Town’s nets in the pic. It’s one of those non-league ‘triangles’ I mentioned – more like a huge tetrahedron.
    http://www.thefootballtraveller.co.uk/

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  7. rt says:

    multi-coloured nets were good, although as your piece above mentions, Liverpool and Evertons were so colour coordinated that you could tell they were there.

    for net-billowing perfection I thought fellew Roy of the Rovers alumni ‘Hot Shot Hamish’ was the uber-netbuster with his habit of sending both ball and netting into row z?

  8. George Mahoney says:

    I have to say I’m a fan of the modern ‘box nets’, mainly because the ball cannot bounce back out of the goal like it can when it hits internal stanchions and they generally look neater. However, I have to say I preferred it when nets were pegged to the turf rather than having these hinged net anchors which, if a powerful strike hits the net, fly up, making it look like the ball could roll right under it and below the net. Also, why do nets appear to be getting more shallow? At Notts Forest and Stockport they seem tiny nowadays.

  9. thegroundhog says:

    George,
    Thanks for your comment. I’m not much for the box nets but if they have to be then I actually prefer the shallower ones. The deep ones, as mentioned, make top-corner goals almost impossible! I like stanchions. I quite like the old lottery of the ball perhaps bouncing out again. Football is becoming too safe and predictable!
    I’ll have to check out the Stockport and Forest nets.
    Thanks again.

  10. VerityHorseplay says:

    Does anyone know the reason why most clubs have moved away from traditional stanchions? I don’t remember any high profile incidents involving stanchions around that time (in fact, the only high profile case I can remember was that Clive Allen one which was years before the change). Was it just fashion or was there more to it than that?

    The one thing going for those box goals was that shots didn’t nestle in the corner. When struck with power they went on a fantastic and circuitous journey inside the net which had an aesthetic quality all of its own.

    On a similar vein, does anyone have a particular penchant for the grainy footage showing games played on pitches with stripey or even square goal posts? I’m sure that was going on even in the 50s at some grounds in Eastern Europe.

  11. thegroundhog says:

    Mr Horseplay, (or maybe Ms)
    Thanks for your comment. I don’t know why all stanchions became the same after a certain date. Maybe there is a manufacturer that has a monopoly on billowing style nets. It’s a shame that the variety is disappearing. I don’t remember any grainy footage of stripey or square goalposts, but at school I remember every games having to help erect the posts which were all wooden and four sided and had a system of squares locking into other squares.

  12. Step Taylor says:

    I was also a stanchion obsessive in the 70s/80s.

    When Scottish fans invaded Wembley in the mid seventies I didn’t fear for the pitch or the fans I feared for the stanchions which in my opinion were second to none.

    Luckily the original shape returned only to be eclipsed at Euro 96 by the standard European stanchion first seen at World Cup 74.

    The top 3 for me were
    3.Hampden Park (although often the nets were too tight
    2.Stamford Bridge (a class of their own)
    1.Wembley. A top corner goal here was worth waiting for but very rare.

    The poorest were West Ham/QPR with very por net retention.

    The most boring wre the classic Teardrop style often seen on your average village green.

    See the new stanchion web site Goalposts from mars which is run by my equally obsessed brother!!y

  13. thegroundhog says:

    Step,
    Thanks for your comment. I don’t share your love of Wembley’s or Hampden Park’s old nets. I like the style but I thought they were just slightly too large, especially Hampden! Chelsea’s were good though, agreed. Yes, QPR’s had poor net retention, but I liked the style. Southampton’s had to be the worst for the ball springing back out, though, don’t you think!?
    I quite like the teardrop style. Never heard it called that before – is that with the triangle in the top corner? Some of them can be really nice. Particularly Leicester’s at Filbert Street. I’ll definitely check out your brother’s site – thanks.

  14. thenetman says:

    the box net off current is a brilliant invention i understand the beauty with a ball getting stuck in a stanchion [mike whitlow for leicester against norwich around 94/95 , filbert street, mega! However the box is more elegant and with the new bar that follows the net all the way around the bottom it can bounce out a great speed!, not to mention the black colouring of this style seen at the bridge and the last game at highbury also with the emblen being mowed into the center circle that game, nice touch! Can anybody remember the nets at ipswich around 94/95 very strange shape never seen them like that ever again they sort of dropped down on the angle to near the bottom then squared off with mini posts right at the back. [ian marshall era, i believe lee dixon lobbed david seaman at that groundin those nets check these out on old footage of ipswich highlights on youtube, a must see for net enthusiasts! bang!

  15. thegroundhog says:

    thenetman,

    Now you mention Portman Road, it is bringing back memories. They did have unusual nets, they were blue, too. The box net isn’t too bad in itself, especially if it’s not too deep, but I disagree with you on the bar at the bottom – I prefer the net to be staked into the ground! It would just be nice to have the variety back.

    Thanks for the comment.

  16. Leon says:

    I’m pretty sure that Euro 96 was a watershed moment for goalnet diversity in England, as I guess UEFA insisted that all participating stadia had to have the standard ‘box’ with external post and cable support. This meant the end of the more individualistic goal types at Wembley, Villa, Old Trafford, The City Ground et al.

  17. hey Groundhog, my apologies, I’m a bit late to your great blog. I’ve recently been blogging re goalnets and stanchions @ http://goalnets.blogspot.com/ (can we link)? Though I despair of the uniformity of today, if I had to have boxnets I’d actually like the nets from Mexico ’86 but hey, who can account for personal taste?

  18. thegroundhog says:

    Hi Tony,
    Thanks for dropping by. A site all about goal nets – superb. I’m going to check it out now. Yes, I’m happy to link.
    Non-league still provides some individuality in goal nets. Shifnal’s were excellent!

  19. thegroundhog says:

    Hi Tony,

    Thanks for listing me as a recommendation. I love your site and will add it to my list. As for my Shifnal pictures, they were truly awful! It was my 7 yo’s camera and there was just no light in them. My usual pics are much better and clearer. However one does show clearly the Highbury circa 89 style goalnets!

    David

  20. Martyn Littell says:

    Its been great reading through these comments, I’m glad others have noticed the different styles of nets over the years.

    Leon’s comment re Euro 96 is quite correct- it was the catalyst for things to change with each ground being given the standard box type with white netting.

    I was fearful for the old Wembley goals in particular, the large area behind the goal line with sometime tight, sometimes stretchy white nets and green stanchions having been there for decades. These fears were realised when England took to the field v Switzerland to see the new goals in place.

    After the tournament some clubs reverted back to what they had before, Villa and Leeds for example. Sadly Wembley wasn’t one of them.

    Liverpool had changed from the decades old ‘red with large holes’ to ‘red with small holes’ (complete with triangle stanchions) in 92-93 and after Euro 96 they had these goal frames back with white small hole netting. Box type goals arrived at Anfield in 1999-2000.

    The best goals to score in will always be the triange stancion type with white, large holed, nets- best demonstrated by Brammal Lane’s examples in the early 90′s.

    There are so few grouns left with the old types now, Glandfield Park being one of them, and if I remember correctly these have both a stanchion and a triangle incorporated into them.

    Black nets are on the increase including examples at Everton, Fulham and Man City. Rochdale’s nets are ghastly, the ball seems to hit an invisible wall when it goes in as the nets completely blend in with the background.

    My own club Charlton started life back at the Valley with ‘triangle’ red and white nets though curiously not of the striped variety but with red at the back and white at the sides. These changed to all red for a few years, then all white and, when we entered the Premiership, the familiar box type came in. Nowadays we have red and white diagonals which lift up after the game has finished- not to my liking at all.

    Finally worst nets in the league- and this is surprising as they are of the traditional type – are at Barnet. No depth and as springy as hell.

  21. thegroundhog says:

    Hi Martyn,
    Great to hear from you. I’m glad there’s other net connoisseurs out there!

  22. Martyn Littell says:

    Hi,

    Sorry I posted the same thing three times! Another uninspring weekend net-wise, I visited stadium MK for the first time and had to look at their boring box type nets. Still we scored the winner in one so its not too bad!

    I watched the Yeovil v Leeds game, very pretty green and white check on show at Huish Park, very nice.

    Martyn

  23. Kev says:

    Just Reading this and being a palace fan i completely agree with alot of what is written! After the bristol city farce last season! It proves not even box style nets are flawless! Palace also have one if there goals way too close to the advertising boards which means the ball pings out fast when hit! Asking for trouble i feel ! Our maybe thats me being pessimistic a after having 2 goals not given after the ball hitting the net twice!! Ps we had fantastic nets in the early 90s plenty of netting would’nt of happend with them!!

  24. Kev says:

    I Apologise for my grammer in my post, got swype setting on my mobile and its meant to do the spelling for you! hmmmm

  25. Andy says:

    Oxford United had the triangle stanchions at start of the season but strangle have box type goal nets now. I think only Scunthorpe, Walsall, Cheltenham and Bradford have the triangle stanchions now.

    Best ever nets I think were the ones at the Baseball Ground in the late 80s early 90s where if there was a shot right in the corner the ball would literal get stuck in the net. I think the nets at Maine Road were similiar style around that era also.

  26. MUFC says:

    I think United were the first to get box nets, they had them before Euro ’96. If I remember correctly, so did Upton Park, Ewood Park, Stamford bridge and the riverside.

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